John Roche (abt. 1835-1880)

John Roche is Dermot's 2nd great grandfather. He is yet another ancestor from the Westhoff side for whom I have very little information.

Here is what I do have:
He was born in about 1835 in Ireland, this information is taken from his death certificate.
He married Jane McLoughlin probably in about 1857 (marriage record not found). Information taken from John Roche's (1967-1950) baptism record.

1858
Birth of daughter Elizabeth (1858-1930)
Her marriage record gives her father's name as John Roche. It also records that she was living at 8 Maghull Street, Liverpool.
Elizabeth applied for naturalisation in 1916 and givers her place of birth as Foxford, County Mayo, Ireland and her parents as John and Jane Roche.

1865
Birth of son James (1865-????)
Year of birth taken from 1881 census, so could actually be 1864. Not much found to link James with John, other than that he was living at 8 Maghull Street in 1881.

Birth of daughter Mary Ann (1865-????)
Birth registration found which gives parents as John and Jane (McLoughlin) Roche, registered in Foxford, County Mayo.
Also living at 8 Maghull Street in 1881.

1867
Birth of son John (1867-1950)
Baptism record gives parents as John and Jane (McLoughlin) Roche, baptised in Liverpool.
Living at 8 Maghull Street in 1881.

1870
Birth of son Michael (1870-????)
Birth registration found which gives parents as John and Jane (McLoughlin) Roach, registered in Foxford, County Mayo. What is also interesting is that the father's address is given as Liverpool, England.

Birth Registration Michael Roach

1873
Birth of daughter Jane (1873-????)
Baptism record gives parents as John and Jane (McLoughlin) Roche, she was baptised in Liverpool.

John died on 29 June 1880 at home, 8 Maghull Street, Liverpool, Lancashire. The cause of death was given as pneumonia and the informant of his death was his wife Jane Roche.

As you can see, there are more questions than answers.
His son John was baptised in Liverpool 1867, but another son's birth was registered in Ireland in 1870. Both have the wife's name as Jane McLoughlin, so would appear to be correct.
The 1871 census has not been found for John or Jane in 1871, were they in Ireland?
There is a large gap between the birth of Elizabeth in 1858 and James in 1865, which is unusual in Catholic families and so far, no records of other children have been found.